Back to the pond

Southern Wolf · 03-10-2010, 04:39 AM

so I went back to the pond tonight to try and improve on my skills and lighting. Looks like I will be custom making a lighting bracket for the cam. Anyhow... here is the results from tonights trip.

andyoconnor83 · 03-10-2010, 08:49 AM

Cool. I am glad you captured the grunts and short chucks after the 3-4 long ones as it appears not all of them do it. I wonder what the purpose of those other calls is. Lang Elliot's cd had lead me to believe that their normal whole call was the series of 3 laughs, then 2 grunts, but I noticed in your previous video that not all of the frogs are doing the chucking. There has to be a significance, or something being communicated other than "come to me".

GB2000 · 03-10-2010, 09:13 AM

I'm pretty sure the chucking stands for, "Hey! Nice rack!"

...and it's safe to assume that not all the ladies in the pond had nice racks. lol

Sylvias · 03-10-2010, 09:51 AM

lol
Maybe one is telling the chicks to come here and the other is telling the males to back off?
I think I read once that is how it works with coqui frogs, don't why that couldn't be the case here as well.

Your yard sounds like a little froggy insane asylum... with all their crazy lauching

Southern Wolf · 03-10-2010, 11:56 AM

I think I had it in the other video.... there was one frog calling (laughing) and it swam over towards another frog.... that frog started grunting.... my perspective was.... it was saying... .Im not a female (or gay).... get away from me. Right after it started grunting the first frog swam away.

Now the one I shot last night... there wasnt another frog even remotely close by when it started grunting..... so I really dont know for sure of the reasoning or importance of it.

I am gonna keep going back when I can... I am trying to get some actual egg laying video to complete my leopard frog video.

andyoconnor83 · 03-10-2010, 03:50 PM

yeah like I was saying, it's always been recorded without video as just the end of the regular call, like your second video is typical leopard frog calling, I just don't know.
Many species have an advertisement call, a territorial call, a release call, etc. I just don't know if it's been documented, studied, etc. Kevin has the right idea to examine actions and behaviors during the calls to see what correlations can be made

Southern Wolf · 03-10-2010, 04:24 PM

Weather permitting... Im going back tonight. They have been calling a little during the day... but there is no way Im sneaking up on them during the daytime. I AM NOT "The Frog Whisperer"... maybe Josh from FL could pull it off... but Im not that good.

moofallon · 03-10-2010, 05:03 PM

Some cool stuff there Kevin nice work, ive been finding and hearing woodfrogs, peepers, chorus frogs and cruising up tons of snot lizards the last few nights up here things are FINALLY moving. Actually saw a few nerodia out basking with the turtles today when I was out working at the nature center today, Ill try and get some video tonite of some Rana calling and see if I get the same series of calls with a post to follow soon.

Matt

snakehunterjosh · 03-16-2010, 08:08 PM

Nice Kevin, not even I have been able to witness leopard frogs chorusing let alone be able to record or photo it. I always hear them but never see it happen.

Southern Wolf · 03-17-2010, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snakehunterjosh

Nice Kevin, not even I have been able to witness leopard frogs chorusing let alone be able to record or photo it. I always hear them but never see it happen.

Well hot damn.... I finally outdid the "Frog Whisperer".... I feel all warm and tingly inside

03-10-2010, 08:49 AM	#2
andyoconnor83 Field Herping Ninja/Man Horse Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bothell, Wa. Posts: 3,100	Cool. I am glad you captured the grunts and short chucks after the 3-4 long ones as it appears not all of them do it. I wonder what the purpose of those other calls is. Lang Elliot's cd had lead me to believe that their normal whole call was the series of 3 laughs, then 2 grunts, but I noticed in your previous video that not all of the frogs are doing the chucking. There has to be a significance, or something being communicated other than "come to me". __________________ 0.0.2 Ground Snakes 1.0 Cape Gopher-Irwin 0.0.1 Sonoran shovelnose snake-bandyt 0.0.1 Red coachwhip-Jaws 0.0.1 W. hognose 0.2 Leopard geckos 1.1.4 Crested geckos 0.0.4 crested eggs 1.1.4 High Crimson Giant Day geckos 0.0.4 H.C. giant day gecko eggs 1.1 Western banded geckos 0.1 S. alligator lizard 0.1 Diamondback terrapin-Harriet 1.1 Giant suriname cobalts 1.0 Green and Black auratus 1.1 R. ventrimaculatus (british guyana)

03-10-2010, 09:51 AM	#4
Sylvias What Now!!! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: I like to call it hell sometimes Posts: 3,959	lol Maybe one is telling the chicks to come here and the other is telling the males to back off? I think I read once that is how it works with coqui frogs, don't why that couldn't be the case here as well. Your yard sounds like a little froggy insane asylum... with all their crazy lauching __________________ www.darksidereptiles.com 1.1 Cali King (Eclipse / Spotlight) 0.1 Lutino Cockatiel (Pheonix) 1.0 Pain in the ass cat! (Friskers) 1.0 Flame Crestie (Soren) 0.1 Milk Snake (Miss. Anthropy) 1.0 IJ Carpet Python (Thanatos)

03-10-2010, 03:50 PM	#6
andyoconnor83 Field Herping Ninja/Man Horse Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bothell, Wa. Posts: 3,100	yeah like I was saying, it's always been recorded without video as just the end of the regular call, like your second video is typical leopard frog calling, I just don't know. Many species have an advertisement call, a territorial call, a release call, etc. I just don't know if it's been documented, studied, etc. Kevin has the right idea to examine actions and behaviors during the calls to see what correlations can be made __________________ 0.0.2 Ground Snakes 1.0 Cape Gopher-Irwin 0.0.1 Sonoran shovelnose snake-bandyt 0.0.1 Red coachwhip-Jaws 0.0.1 W. hognose 0.2 Leopard geckos 1.1.4 Crested geckos 0.0.4 crested eggs 1.1.4 High Crimson Giant Day geckos 0.0.4 H.C. giant day gecko eggs 1.1 Western banded geckos 0.1 S. alligator lizard 0.1 Diamondback terrapin-Harriet 1.1 Giant suriname cobalts 1.0 Green and Black auratus 1.1 R. ventrimaculatus (british guyana)

03-10-2010, 05:03 PM	#8
moofallon Weekend Log flipper... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: st. charles MO Posts: 661	Some cool stuff there Kevin nice work, ive been finding and hearing woodfrogs, peepers, chorus frogs and cruising up tons of snot lizards the last few nights up here things are FINALLY moving. Actually saw a few nerodia out basking with the turtles today when I was out working at the nature center today, Ill try and get some video tonite of some Rana calling and see if I get the same series of calls with a post to follow soon. Matt __________________ http://www.freewebs.com/moofallon/ "Just saved a ton of money on his car insurance by leaving the scene of an accident".

03-16-2010, 08:08 PM	#9
snakehunterjosh Frog Whisperer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Palm Beach County, Florida Posts: 502	Nice Kevin, not even I have been able to witness leopard frogs chorusing let alone be able to record or photo it. I always hear them but never see it happen. __________________

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